Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
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Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Nifty staffy Sun Jul 21 2019, 20:20
Been looking at different (grain free) kibbles and they generally have between 3-5% fibre which seems little to me. My girls also like to “graze grass” so I’m wondering if I couldn’t add some fibre.
But what, what form and what quantity ?
I’m guessing the best bet is to go towards vegetables and the obvious ones are carrot, green beans, broccoli.
But raw or cooked ? Carrots can be grated raw I suppose.
Tinned beans ok ? Cooked broccoli ?
But what, what form and what quantity ?
I’m guessing the best bet is to go towards vegetables and the obvious ones are carrot, green beans, broccoli.
But raw or cooked ? Carrots can be grated raw I suppose.
Tinned beans ok ? Cooked broccoli ?
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Mia05 Sun Jul 21 2019, 20:26
You could add some wholegrain rice a tablespoon or a raw egg carrots raw whole are good just supervise them with them
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by MartP Sun Jul 21 2019, 21:15
My PJ loves a chunk of raw carrot, once or twice a day as opposed to the usual treats - hasn't affected her stools either.
Nifty are your gals on Raw or tinned meat with kibble?? I always give my gal a desert spoon of tinned with her 'complete' food - mixed in she wolfs it down and licks the bowl clean - all wheat free of course.
Nifty are your gals on Raw or tinned meat with kibble?? I always give my gal a desert spoon of tinned with her 'complete' food - mixed in she wolfs it down and licks the bowl clean - all wheat free of course.
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Nifty staffy Sun Jul 21 2019, 21:58
MartP wrote:
Nifty are your gals on Raw or tinned meat with kibble??
Neither really, from the moment that kibble is *supposed* to be a complete and balanced feed.
But, they get added tinned sardines, coconut oil, bit of minced beef or boiled chicken on average once every other evening meal. Sometimes a hard boiled egg but had a few nasty surprises after feeding raw eggs, unfortunately.
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Mia05 Sun Jul 21 2019, 22:08
To start id maybe give your dog once every 2 weeks get their system used to it and i wouldnt give them fish or eggs in the same week .
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by MartP Sun Jul 21 2019, 22:49
Sounds like a good varied but complete diet Nifty
Once PJ is older and on adult food I do tend to similar, used to give mine mackerel, tuna etc once a week - did at one time feed them raw but it’s difficult IMO compared to the complete foods now which are really good. Plus adding the little ‘fresh’ items such as fish etc - always been blessed with healthy dogs as a result
Hey Mia, not sure if you meant me with your post? X Carrots are only given as treats, not really a fixed part of PJs diet
If your post wants for me, we’ll then I’ll shut up!
Once PJ is older and on adult food I do tend to similar, used to give mine mackerel, tuna etc once a week - did at one time feed them raw but it’s difficult IMO compared to the complete foods now which are really good. Plus adding the little ‘fresh’ items such as fish etc - always been blessed with healthy dogs as a result
Hey Mia, not sure if you meant me with your post? X Carrots are only given as treats, not really a fixed part of PJs diet
If your post wants for me, we’ll then I’ll shut up!
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Inez Maria Sun Jul 21 2019, 22:56
Vinnie has thrived on raw diet with added veg what put me off dried complete is when I dropped one in washing up water one day and my god it swelled up twice size at that point I thought what is it doing to his insides.....
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by MartP Sun Jul 21 2019, 23:02
Yeah I know Inez, it certainly does swell up for sure - that said it also become digested pretty quickly in their system - so I believe - and I do give the meaty and fishy extras as a variant for their pallets and to ensure they’re getting the right oils etc.
May go back to it (raw) one day, just not set up for it at mine - when I’m working I pay a dog sitter to come round so I’d need to find the right one to do the raw diet in my absence...
So far so good with mine anyhoo - FIRM believer in our digs looking and feeling good, fit, healthy and happy with good structure - then we must be doing something right, raw diets included!!!
May go back to it (raw) one day, just not set up for it at mine - when I’m working I pay a dog sitter to come round so I’d need to find the right one to do the raw diet in my absence...
So far so good with mine anyhoo - FIRM believer in our digs looking and feeling good, fit, healthy and happy with good structure - then we must be doing something right, raw diets included!!!
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by MartP Sun Jul 21 2019, 23:04
And also our ‘dogs’ looking and feeling good... 
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Inez Maria Sun Jul 21 2019, 23:11
Well yes its a learning curve and I know that "blues" have extremely major skin probs due to breeding and such like also colour dilution so guess its different for every individual x
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by MartP Sun Jul 21 2019, 23:14
Well Inez, the diet you have him on is certainly working, cos he looks stunning x
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Inez Maria Sun Jul 21 2019, 23:16
Aww thank you is been a long time working out what suits but think I have finally got there x
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by MartP Sun Jul 21 2019, 23:25
No problem Inez xx speak as I find xx
Love the photo of Vinnie standing as if to ‘show’ in the woods..! Fab profile and coat
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Nifty staffy Mon Jul 22 2019, 19:05
Inez Maria wrote: what put me off dried complete is when I dropped one in washing up water one day and my god it swelled up twice size at that point I thought what is it doing to his insides.....
I understand and that’s linked to my kibble test I posted about a while back
https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t66875-the-kibble-test
Not all kibble swells up and not everyone can/should/wants to go raw or barf.
I believe it’s better to feed quality kibble than feed unbalanced raw, especially with hygiene considerations so very important with raw/barf !
What veg did you add to your raw ?
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Nifty staffy Mon Jul 22 2019, 19:09
Mia05 wrote:i wouldnt give them fish or eggs in the same week .
Just out of curiosity, why not ?
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Inez Maria Mon Jul 22 2019, 19:39
He has pretty much most veg mashed in with it and it seems to suit him so will stick with it I have no problem with kibble its just a choice I have made he has lost weight also which I am pleased about due to his bad arthiritic elbow and the vet was very pleased with him last time we went ,,,,, like everything what suits one does not suit anotherNifty staffy wrote:Inez Maria wrote: what put me off dried complete is when I dropped one in washing up water one day and my god it swelled up twice size at that point I thought what is it doing to his insides.....
I understand and that’s linked to my kibble test I posted about a while back
https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t66875-the-kibble-test
Not all kibble swells up and not everyone can/should/wants to go raw or barf.
I believe it’s better to feed quality kibble than feed unbalanced raw, especially with hygiene considerations so very important with raw/barf !
What veg did you add to your raw ?
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by gillybrent Tue Jul 23 2019, 09:16
Nifty staffy wrote:
I’m guessing the best bet is to go towards vegetables and the obvious ones are carrot, green beans, broccoli.
But raw or cooked ? Carrots can be grated raw I suppose.
Tinned beans ok ? Cooked broccoli ?
Carrot, cabbage, sprouts, green beans etc are all good. You can give carrots whole (if they don't try to swallow the whole thing!), chopped, sliced - pretty much any way you like.
I wouldn't go for beans (pulses) of any sort as they have been linked to heart problems in dogs (jury's still out, but best to err on the side of caution!). Broccoli, raw, is also not good, but cooked is fine. Fruit (if they like it) can also be a good fibre source, believe it or not, because they don't fully digest them & they bind with the normal food to ease digestion. Obviously not grapes, raisins etc for obvious reasons.
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Nifty staffy Tue Jul 23 2019, 18:03
Great ! Thanks so much for the detailed replies 
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Dogface Wed Jul 24 2019, 14:39
My boy has a spoonful of 'Protexin Veterinary Pro-Fibre for Dogs and Cats' with every meal (twice a day). He's had that for about four years now. Really good stuff.
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by Mia05 Wed Jul 24 2019, 15:38
Nifty staffy wrote:Mia05 wrote:i wouldnt give them fish or eggs in the same week .
Just out of curiosity, why not ?
Upset their stomach
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Re: Feeding extra fibre with kibble ?
by gillybrent Wed Jul 24 2019, 18:44
Really? I've never noticed. 
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